 Jeep® Grand Cherokee Once Again Named 'Four Wheeler of the Year'
Posted by mike on 2001/11/16 23:00:00 (540) reads
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Four Wheeler magazine editors today named the 2002 Jeep® Grand Cherokee Overland "Four Wheeler of the Year," marking the fourth time the Grand Cherokee has won this prestigious award -- more than any other vehicle since the publication began the award in 1974. The Grand Cherokee upstaged seven rivals in both on- and off-road evaluations.
" Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland outclassed the other vehicles in the 'Four Wheeler of the Year' competition with its outstanding performance, excellent off-road capability, superb on-road ride and handling, and top-of-the-line interior," said Jon Thompson, editor, Four Wheeler. "It's clear that Jeep engineers have a long history of building true 4x4 sport-utility vehicles. The Jeep brand created the SUV market and maintains its leadership in this segment." The magazine also noted that the all-new Jeep Liberty, which went on sale earlier this year, was a close second in the annual competition, giving Jeep a 1-2 finish.
"We're honored to be named 'Four Wheeler of the Year' by Four Wheeler magazine, the longest-running four-wheel drive enthusiast publication," said Tom Marinelli, Vice President, Chrysler/Jeep Global brand Center, DaimlerChrysler Corporation. "We have
the ultimate respect for the tough performance tests that Four Wheeler staff puts the competitive field through. This award speaks directly to our Jeep heritage as the original 4x4 and innovator of the SUV market."
To be eligible for the annual Four Wheeler competition, a four-wheel drive vehicle must be new or significantly revised for the model year. For 2002, Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland features a new, high-output 4.7-liter V-8 engine that produces 260 horsepower at 5100 rpm and 330 lb.-ft. of torque at 3600 rpm, representing a 15 percent increase in horsepower and a 12 percent increase in torque over the highly acclaimed 4.7-liter PowerTechTM V-8 engine.
This year's "Four Wheeler of the Year" competition included Chevrolet TrailBlazer, Ford Explorer, Isuzu Axiom, Jeep Liberty, Land Rover Freelander, Mercedes-Benz ML 500 and Nissan Xterra.
As a four-time winner of the "Four Wheeler of the Year" award, Grand Cherokee secured the top spot in its first year on the market in 1993, again in 1996 when it was significantly revised, and a third time in 1999 with the 5.9-liter engine, which made Grand Cherokee the fastest SUV available in the U.S. market.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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 Originally posted by: dave i know this is ancient, i don't care. different things happen to different vehicles made by different manufacturers in different circumstances. i own a Sportage. has not been the best vehicle in the world, but it has been the best one i've ever owned. i beat the hell out of it on the rocks on weekends and drive it to work during the week. it is a week away from losing it's IFS and getting 44's, but not becuase i break equipment on it, simply for the added articulation and the fact that the suspension will be more easily changed afterward. i have run with jeeps, X-terra's, just about every make and model that has a 4x4 out there and i have to say, the only thing that makes a difference is who's behind the wheel.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Designer OK, I'm a design student - but the reason people buy new Jeeps (and Alfa Romeos, and Land Rovers, and...) is because they value more than specs and tests on sheets of paper. Japanese cars are simply appliances( albeit very good ones), with no regard for their own heritage or design consistency and rarely an attemt to infuse brand individualism. For most people who purchase anything other than a Japanese or Korean car, the decision cannot be rationalised like some math equation. They derive pleasure from intrinsic qualities of the object, and value the idea that their make of vehicle has its own culture.
I would be lying through my teeth if i claimed that my Grand was as trouble-free as the Landcruiser I drove before it, but i don't care. I wouldn't swap back if I could.
I have tried to pinpoint what i love about the Jeep... but I can't... It's the style, the brassiness, the way it rides on those good old live axles, the way the seats cosset you, the awesome stereo, the way I feel some weird kind of kinship when you see another seven slotted grille - be it on a CJ or a Cherokee or a Liberty, its an overall vibe which i get from the Jeep.
Some people are oblivious to things like these - they buy Nissans. Some people aren't - guess what they buy?
(Hint: it's not a Kia Sportage)
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Joe that owns a jeep Talk about liars,Xterra,You said You were not going to post on here anymore what's up? As for the article You are referring to,were have You been living for the past two years,under a rock? DC. has been saying that thay are going in this direction for some time now.As for calling Me a"twat" what can I say,I am what I eat.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: utah "Jerry...Jerry...Jerry...Jerry" !!!!
Talk to the hand....Xterra.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: utah wow....gotta like that last thread of posts!! Next week on Jerry..... " sheep bangin....retard Xterra and KIA owners confront REAL Jeep owners "
OK, now that I've stopped laughing....I'm surprised that nobody is saying more about LIBERTY rollovers. Now crappin' on Liberty's....that's real fun!!
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: twonabomber buy a foreign made SUV? didn't we kick the shit out of those people in the war?
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Joe Nos As for Xterra,
I just want to say he has guts. Coming on to this board and loving a Foreign made SUV. Jeep owners are narrow minded and can't accept the fact that Foreign cars have always been better than American cars. Xterra has the knowledge and experience to know this.
Joe "always" Nos
Buy Kia, you'll live to tell about it!
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: twonabomber Renault will kill Nissan just like they drove AMC to the brink of collapse. wait till they try to stick crappy Renault commuter-car seats and other parts in the Xterras like they did in the Cherokees. say what you want about DC, but my dad worked in the Cherokee plant under both Renault and Daimler's ownership, and compared to the Germans, Renault has no clue.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Xterra Joe you are a brainless frigan retarded idiot
who probably bangs sheep. As for the rest of
you, please go to thecarconnection . com and
read the article "A revolution at Jeep" .....this is
the reason I am moving on..... as long as I
have my CJ I can go anywhere offroad, so I'll
make my second vehicle a capable one made
by a company that won't rape the Jeep
nameplate and heritage. Any of you who think
owning a Jeep will mean anything in the
future.... well go read that article at
thecarconnection . com...it speaks for itself!!!
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Joe that owns a jeep here is my comment Xterra I am not the same guy that posted Xtarra sill sucks,I am joe that owns a jeep. I am 35 NOT 16 & I would be more then happy to meet you on a trail but I do'nt think I ever well because I am beginning to think that you do'nt even own a jeep of any kind at all.Apparenty I am not the only one that thinks your an ass.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Xterras Still Suck Sorry Xterra that I don't have the time to continually check this post to see your redundant responses. And wow am I devestated being called a 16 yr old with a barbie Jeep... i guess you got me. But in reality i'm in my twenties with my third grand cherokee (2001 Laredo S). I don't need you or anyone else to justify my purchase because I know its right. My comments are not to insult you, but to inform you that on a Jeep site no one cares that you want an Xterra S/C or Trailblazer, especially if you are the claim offroader you are. You have posted the same thing for months... we got it. So go get one. Its that simple. And the others are right... you keep talking about having a CJ but never anything about it. Just post something new for once.... but not about how you were molested. Go ahead and post against me... i really don't care... you are doing more harm to your own creditability than anyone elses.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Xterra Xterra Xterra Nissan is no better then Jeep Oh and I'd love to run into you on a trail, we
could use your little Wrangler as a boulder for
my CJ7!!!
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Joe that owns a jeep here is my comment Xtarra You realy are an ass, I have been reading your posts for some time now & I have come to the conclusion that you are ether autistic or your stepdad molested you in the back seat of a jeep. because that is the only two things that I can think of that make you post the things that you post, as for a tj being a barbie jeep I will be more than happy to take you offroading with Me. Just let me know when you get that over weight,over priced,under powered piece of junk Xtarra. Xtarra You are a jack ass & every time I read another one of your posts it just confims it for Me.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: utah Xterra, here is my comment to you. I have read a lot of your posts, and I know that you know quite a bit about Jeeps. What probably bugs everyone is all you seem to say is that you are going to buy an Xterra next time...Ok we know...you have said it a million times here. I'd rather read about your restoration of your CJ. That would be interesting. Of course...I am no pulitzer prize winning writer either...so take what I say with a grain of salt....but WE DO KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO BUY AN XTERRA. nuff said!
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Xterra Listen you stupid 16 year old twit with your
2002 TJ Barbie Jeep, why don't you kiss my
a$$. I also own a 1980 CJ7 that I restored
from the frame up, so why don't you take your
poser ass over to Mazda.com where you
belong.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Liberty And Xterra Both Suck Hey Xterra... no one gives a shit. What next are going to list all the Christmas presents for your family. Both an Xterra and Trailblazer suck and will continue to suck. Even Four Wheeler magazine .com rated the Liberty better in power, offroad ability and handling compared to the Xterra S/C and Liberty rolls over. Go read it and stop posting the same crap. (Nissan fans try freshalloy.com)
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: mr jeep here is my comment
YOU KNOW THE INTERESTING PART ABOUT THE LIBERTY IS GOING TO BE WHEN WINTER REALLY HITS AND WE HAVE THE SLUSH, ICE PATCHES, FREEZING RAIN, AND SNOW. I KNOW THE FIRST THING I AM GOING TO SEE GOING DOWN THE HIGHWAY IS A LIBERTY PASSING ME IN MY 2001 JEEP CHEROKEE-IN SLUSHY ROADS. HE OR SHE WILL BE DOING ABOUT 75-80, IN 2 WHEEL DRIVE, THINKING I CAN PASS THAT GUY IN THE OLE CHEROKEE CAUSE I AM DRIVIN THE ULTRA MODERN JEEP. AND THEY'LL PASS HIT A PATCH OF ICE 2 MILES DOWN THE ROAD,SPIN OUT AND ROLL OVER IN THE DITCH. THEN THEY ACT STUNNED STANDING AROUND THERE JEEP S
ATCHIN THERE HEADS OR ASSES-DUHH WHAT HAPPENED? I'VE SEEN IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN, NEW JEEP=FASTER. ESPECIALLY WITH IFS-YOU CAN NOT FEEL THE ROAD PERIOD! THESE LIBERTY'S ARE SMOOTH RIDING VEHICLES AND HAVE REAL NICE RACK AND RATTLE STEERING, SO YOU CAN'T FEEL THE ROAD. THE OLE CHEROKEE YOU CAN FEEL THE ROAD THEREFORE ARE A LITTLE MORE CAUTIOUS OF THE ROAD AND CONDITIONS. IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE THE TRACK RECORD COMING UP-AND WAIT TIL THE MEDIA HERES ABOUT ALL THESE TESTS...
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Patrick This article was very shocking, especially when the Liberty was supposed to be the best handling Jeep. Considering Grands do the slalom faster and without incident while still offering a smooth ride, what was the point of the IFS. While the article states the people involved seem baffled by the exact cause (changes in coefficients of friction?), the Liberty roll over situation was near duplicated with six more run in an identical Liberty. Considering most people would sacrifice ride to not roll over, I hope Jeep still has some Cherokee parts.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: MR JEEP here is my comment
TALKING ABOUT GM'S I6, I JUST READ MOTORTRUCK A SPIN OFF OF MOTOR TREND I BELIEVE. AND ANYWAY THEY TESTED THE GM ENVOY, EXPLORER, JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE AND DODGE DURANGO. THE COMMENTS ON THE ENVOY WERE THAT IT WAS BEAT BY THE EXPLORER IN THE 0-80 MPH, BUT PULLED AWAY AFTER 80. THEN, THEY MENTIONED IT WOULD BEAT THE EXPLORER IF SHIFTED MANUALLY. WHAT ARE ENGINEERS THINKING? WHY SHOULD I PAY 35K AND SHIFT F''IN MANUALLY? THEN THEY WENT ON TO RUNDOWN THE SOLID AXLES ON THE GRAND CHEROKEE 3-4 TIMES AND SAY THE JEEP WAS OLD BLAH BLAH-YOU KNOW THE STORY. AND WHAT REALLY MADE ME JUMP AND LAUGH WAS THE LAST PARAGRAPH, BUT OUT OF ALL OF THESE VEHICLES WE'D PICK THE GRAND CHEROKEE BECAUSE-BLAH BLAH. GO FIGURE-SOLID AXLES STILL RULE.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: mrjeep here is my comment
Yeah, well engineers can test, and bring new technologies forth but we have to drive and maintain the Jeep stuff. And a recent article I believe it was in OFF Road magazine showed a lifted Liberty-it didn' look to bad-considering i am not a liberty nut. But they had to send to some 'special place or shop', and from what they said or sounded like a not at home do-it-yourself-lift Jeep at this point.
As far as companies going to IFS because it's a new technology, well that's not exactly true, Jeep tried (as most of the regular readers know) this back in the wagoneers in the sixties. The fact remains it is a hell of alot cheaper to build an IFS axle vs a regular axle-supposedly. But then from what i have seen i think what the overall goal is 'common parts' among companies-like transfer cases. For those who have worked in the engineering world-know that parts cost $$$, but so do part#'s$$$-for those who haven't worked in this type of thing figure it out yourselves. Therefore you'll probably see the same suspension in the Dakota, and on and on. So, it's not an issue of engineering and technology-it's a manufacturing and bean counter issue.
I have also heard rumors that Chevy is going to have a new 'leaf spring' suspension in their-so go figure? They reintroduced the straight six in their Trailblazer so who knows?
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Utah Go back in the archives. Reports of Grand Cherokees going into reverse have been covered here. Maybe you should look, before you mouth off.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Frank Williams here is my comment--What about the bad stuff, like Jeeps going into reverse and severing people's legs? If you are going to advertise as a "news" site, report the news, good and bad.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Sean M. Funny how a solid axle vehicle that handles SO BAD and rides SO BAD can win 4x4 of the year AGAIN!
DC/Jeep is probably going to keep the solid axle in the Grand and put IFS on all other models. Then they will charge even more for the solid axle in the Grand because it will have " AN EXCLUSIVE SUSPENSION TECHNOLOGY"! WOW, GEE, SUPER DUPER, DANDY! I'll pay extra for that!!! (heavy on the sarcasm)
I still say my fathers 1999 Grand rides better than most Cadillac cars i've riden in, period!
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Sean M. Xterra, i wish you would go away! I don't read? Well it looks the other way around to me... I guess calling someone a twit is not an insult in your vocabulary?
"Listen you stupid 16 year old twit with your
2002 TJ Barbie Jeep, why don't you kiss my
a$$."
The above quote posted by XTerra is what started the whole thing... no one insulted XTerra directly until XTerra posted this grade school attack... All that was stated was an OPINION on a certain model vehicle which happens to be your choice of vehicle and you took offense to it.
Provoked or not, get over it and post something useful. Just because someone posts something insulting you don't have to reply to it! Everything you post here is against DC/Jeep, if you don't like the direction Jeep is headed go buy your Nissan POS and be happy with it, no one cares! That is your right as a US citizen to buy anything you want.
I noticed you don't have any response to my FACTS about CJ's and TJ's do you!! Just more insults like telling me i'm talking out of my posterior side. Well lets see some of your facts, then i will have some respect for you. Until then you are nothing but a ten year old who dreams of owning a CJ.
And if you think KIA is a good vehicle you don't know jack about cars! KIA's are disposable vehicles, ever heard of a YUGO?
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: 2000XJ Yes the carconnection.com article. You mean the one where Jeep will build less capable SUVs so to remain competitive... so they will be more like say Nissan who used to build trucks but now a affordable grocery getter (Xterra) and minivan (Pathfinder complete with DVD video player). While its sad, they have held out as long as possible along with Rover. I don't believe they will ever build something like a RX300, Highlander, MDX.... but it may be necessary to suppliment earnings so some true Jeeps may continue to be built.
Also, anyone trying to plead maturity, the use of "twat" and edited swears does not sell the point. These are opinions and should not affect you so much... XTERRA
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Xterra I can't resist.... nothing I do could ever give a
moron like you any worse of a name then you
give yourself just by breathing. Facts??? You
started off by talking about molestation and
total lies? What facts??? You are just a
complete idiot... and Sean M obviously doesn't
read or he wouldn't opened his trap in the first
place. I haven't insulted anyone, as a matter of
fact, I know a lot of real Jeep owners and none
of them are ignorant twats like most of you
seem to be. Also it's funny how all of you talk
crap and lie about me, but none of you had the
guts to respond to the article on
thecarconnection . com website. Why?
Because you are all a bunch of stupid poser
clowns who care nothing about the real
heritage of Jeep, you could put a 7 slot grill on
a VW Cabrio, as long as it had a Jeep tag you
posers would defend it and insult anyone who
exposes it for the piece of crap that it is. Enjoy
your Liberties, Varsities, and Camry based
Willies....LOL...... You stupid A$$es deserve
it!!!
P.S. sorry Joe, Your right, Kia will be better
then Jeep in the very near future!
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Joe that owns a jeep Xterra it is funny that when you are confronted with facts You respond with insults.So to clear things up I am far from being retarded or brainless & as for whom I am banging lets just say, that is between Your daughter & I. If You are dumb enough to buy an Xterra, & I think you are, Go ahead because Jeep owners like you give the rest of us a bad name. good luck you will need it.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Xterra Sean M.
Fact: As usual you continue to talk out of your
a$$. I'm attacking who??? Who don't you read
the previous posts from the real morons on
this board before you insult me.
Fact: Hey Joe "Nos" ......sorry pal..... Kia
sucks!!!
Fact: This is a nice site, but moron like Joe
that owns a Jeep amd Sean M no longer
make it worth posting on... goodbye.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Joe Nos Wow, I just read the autoweek article. I hope no one gets killed in another JEEP. I shoooooore am glad I bought a KiA Sportage. My Sportage would never do something like that. :). I hate to say that I told you (idiot jeep owners) so, but I did.
Joe "the one and only" Nos
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Originally posted by: Sean M. Xterra, Why do you feel you must attack everyone like a ten year old? Mommy not breast feeding you anymore? There are doctors that can help with that you know.
FACT #1 - A TJ, all around, is more Jeep than ANY stock CJ ever produced, V8 or not. Better suspension, better (more dependable, they don't stall on a hill!) engine (you might know that if you had a CJ and used it off-road), stronger axles, better T'case, better body tub design, better soft top. I'll put my 01 TJ up against your fictious CJ any day!
If you really had a CJ you would at least have some respect left for DC/Jeep for continuing with the TJ. Every safety board in the world would love to have discontinued them ten years ago, be thankful they are still deing made.
FACT #2 - Go ahead and buy your XTerra, you can then take pride in the fact that you are putting more Americans out of jobs and funding a Japaneese company... to each his own i guess, it is still a free country.. that is until Japan buys the rest of it.
FACT #3 - You don't know jack about Jeeps, why don't you go DRIVE your CJ instead of bitchin on here about your next purchase.... NO ONE CARES!
FACT #4 - You should not drive A Jeep, that only serves to disgrace the entire Jeep community.
Go crawl under a rock somewhere, i'll be glad to put some extra weight on it with my TJ! As the British say... PISS OFF!
PS: Try talking about the TOPIC, not try just to piss off everyone!
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: XJKEN Every once in a while things get a little heated on this page which makes for
some interesting reading. Jeep enthusiast vs Xterra enthusiast vs Trailblazer
enthusiast vs Kia enthusiast, everyone with their favorite. It should come as no suprise to anyone then that I am a Jeep enthusiast. I am not one of those
Jeep enthusiast who has owned countless different Jeep vehicles over the years
like Griff. The current 1999 Cherokee Sport that I own is just the second Jeep
vehicle that I have owned, I owned a 1978 CJ for a while when I was younger.
I own a Jeep Cherokee because of the JEEP HERITAGE as much any other reason. I am sure that Xterras, Trailblazers, Kias or whatever else other people
chose to buy are decent vehicles, but the bottom line is they are not Jeeps. Even with the advent of the IFS Liberty they have maintained the JEEP
HERITAGE although in a way that does not please everyone. I like most on this
page believe that solid axles are the best system for off road vehicles. I like
most on this page believe that DCX is running the Jeep brand simply to ring the
most profits from it. I like most on this page believe that drive for profits is in the long run threatens that same JEEP HERITAGE. The current Grand Cherokee
is still the best combination of on road luxury and off road ability on the market
today. From what I have read about the next generation Grand that may not be the case. The thing that worries me the most about DC's direction with Jeep
is that they seem to be trying to compete with every other manufacturer on their terms, instead of keeping Jeep vehicles unique.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Xterra Make that Nissan is NOW better then DC
Jeep.
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Originally posted by: Xterra You need to get yourself some help pal. Looks
like I was right about the 16 year old poser twit
with the Barbie Jeep part too!
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Originally posted by: utah I meant to comment to Sean M. as well. I agree with what you are saying about driving habits. My first Jeep was a CJ-7. Thank god it had a hard time going over 55mph cause I probably would have rolled it. With the lifters on it...shitty tires and considering it had the shit beat out of it....I am amazed it stayed upright. However, the same can't be said of my 2000 Cherokee sport. I have left the warning decals on the visors just to remind me about the danger. I do drive it slow....most of the time. But it can go like stink when I let it....and sometimes I forget, and catch myself driving way to fast! So, it is good advice that you are giving! I am going to try and take it easy...especially with winter coming here in Canada.
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Originally posted by: Xterra And I haven't just read about the Liberty and
SC Xterra, I've driven both, and I like the Xterra
a lot more .... and it's a free country.... so shut
the hell up you stupid twit.
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Originally posted by: Larry I just bought a Liberty which is my eigth Jeep since 1979 (3 GCs, 3 Cherokees, and 1 CJ). I drove all of them on and off road and have never had a problem (although the Liberty has yet to see anything except city streets). I agree wholeheartedly with the comments above that Jeeps are not sports cars and if you drive them intelligently you should be safe. I think you can find a problem with any SUV (maybe some more than others). To me, you either love Jeeps or you don't. They're not perfect, but I'll keep on buyin 'em.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Xterra Yup.... I've decided after my Cherokee lease is
up my next SUV will be either a Trailblazer or
the SC Xterra..... : )
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Sean M. Good job DC! You managed to build a ANOTHER death trap! I thought they figured out the height to width ratio and center of gravity issues when they stopped making the CJ series! From reading the article it sounds like DC is skirting around the problem saying they can't recreate the problem and that the surface AW tested on was not consistent, and that no one drives their vehicles like AW conducted the tests,etc. BS! NO OTHER VEHICLES OF ANY KIND ROLLED BURING THESE TESTS.
Got news for you DC.. ROADS DON'T HAVE CONSISTENT PAVING SURFACES AND MOST DRIVERS ARE IDOITS! All the roads in my area are rough, uneven, transition from asplault to concrete, and have patches and pothole fixes all over them!
I just hope no one gets kill in these things, you know folks don't drive them like they should. I see people unsafely darting around in SUV's every day. I drive a 2001 TJ Wrangler, but i respect the FACT that it is not a sports car... IT'S A JEEP! I drive slow, like an old man, this is how everyone should drive an SUV type vehicle. If you don't and you get into a bad situation theres not margin for error. Lefe it too precious, i'll be late for work, but i'll be alive!
The fact that DC keeps boasting about how well the Liberty handles, and how much better the on-road driveability is only fuels IDIOTS into beleiving they can drive them like a Porche! This makes me so mad...
Oh well, i have the Jeeps i want so i hope DC drives Jeep into the ground and out of business, at least they will go out with some dignity and stop making wussie trucks! Between the product engineers and the slack ass fools at the UAW this may not be too far off. Maybe they'll be put on the chopping block and bought out by a company without their heads up their ASS!
GREAT JOBS DC! YOU SUCK!!
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: utah I read the Autoweek article on the Liberty rollover. What is interesting is that of all the SUV's they have tested, the Liberty is the only one to rollover. Maybe the added height of the Liberty combined with the IFS are the culprits. Nobody seems to know for sure....but this can't be good news for Liberty fans. Of course, this was an extreme situation...but like Autoweek mentions in it's article...many people drive SUV's like they are compact cars.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Kia Sephia Worshiper LIBERTY ROLLOVER ALERT!!! Read Autoweek! HAHAHAHA Looks like the Liberty is going to be a real Turkey now!!! Gobble Gobble Gobble
Kia Sportage rules ANY JEEP!!!
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Sean M. Yeah, jeep is dropping the I6 because it's "old technology"... now GM has their I6 that blows away most V8 engines. Go figure! Same thing will happen with the front axles!
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Originally posted by: Matt here is my comment: I can't wait to read the article, but my guess is that the Liberty took second not because of the IFS, but because it just is not the total package that the GC Overland is. Four Wheeler's test is not just off-road ability. My guess is that the two Jeeps smoked everything else in the off-road department. Just as a side note--our beloved solid axles are becoming a thing of the past. New technologies will take over. We may not like or welcome change, but it is coming. I read yesterday that the new Range Rover coming out in January will be going to a fully independent suspension. As the technology to increase wheel travel in IFS/IRS increases, you will see it on more vehicles, and not just the BMW's and Ford Exploders, but the REAL off-road oriented vehicles like Jeeps and Rovers. The day is coming, and not because Jeep engineers don't go off-road, but because they are engineers, and they want to develop new technologies to get there.
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Originally posted by: OR Bruce Looks like solid axles win again. I'm looking forward to reading the article, to see how the Liberty fared, and got into second place. It got a mediocre writeup in Four Wheeler. I had been leaning toward a Liberty to replace my (3rd) XJ when my lease is up, but now I hope to get to a Grand for the ground clearance and luggage space. The way they're being discounted, I might make it.
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