 Lone Jeep Sales Bright Spot: Grand Cherokee Sales Up
Posted by mike on 2005/4/4 23:00:00 (382) reads
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Liberty and Wrangler Sales Remain Flat (at best)
(from a DaimlerChrysler press release)
Jeep® brand sales continued their monthly sales acceleration by posting sales of 40,491 units in March, an increase of 1 percent over February 2005 sales. Sales of the all-new Jeep Grand Cherokee improved 6 percent to 18,828 units compared to March 2004 sales of 17,105 units. Jeep Liberty sales declined 3 percent on an adjusted basis, but unadjusted sales increased to 14,915 units for March 2005. Year ago sales totaled 14,818 units. Jeep Wrangler sales continued their monthly improvement pace by posting sales of 6,748 units, an increase of 15 percent over February 2005 sales.
DaimlerChrysler Corporation U.S. Sales Summary Thru March 2005
Month Sales DR % Vol %
Model Curr Yr Pr Yr Change Change
Wrangler 6,748 8,044 -19% -16%
Liberty 14,915 14,818 -3% 1%
Grand Cherokee 18,828 17,105 6% 10%
JEEP BRAND 40,491 39,967 -2% 1%
DaimlerChrysler Corporation U.S. Sales Summary Thru March 2005
Sales CYTD DR % Vol %
Model Curr Yr Pr Yr Change Change
Wrangler 15,689 20,395 -22% -23%
Liberty 40,909 42,951 -3% -5%
Grand Cherokee 47,114 48,899 -2% -4%
JEEP BRAND 103,712 112,245 -6% -8%
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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 Originally posted by: OnlyOneJeep I'm with Jason and a cupla others..To paraphrase Tim McGraw.."live each day like you're dying"....
That simple..I love my YJ and even though gas here is $2.35/gal. I still am taking the H/T off soon and getting ready for a topless/doorless & soft top summer!
An American Icon does NOT deserve to sit in the garage or packed away like some forgotten toy.
My ZJ Limited 5.2 gets maybe 12mpg? I don't care....I still love it! And I love watching the "instant economy" ready go toward 6/8mpg...'cus I know she's working hard n' sweet and sounds good!
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: CJ Jack Jon
On the Laredo, Quadra-Trac II is included with the 4.7L V8 - you cannot get it with the V6.
YJ Jeeper
The "C R" problem may be that this site is reading them as Carriage Return, the equivalent of hitting Enter (it's from the era of the typewriter). See how it started a new paragraph each time?
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Jon On sort of the same subject, Does anyone have any real life numbers(not maufacture estimate) on how the V6 versus a V8 in a 2005 Grand Cherokee compares. Do you gain much in gas milage with the V6?
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: OnlyOneJeep I agree...the diesel STILL hasn't kicked in fully for some reason in the States.
Maybe this is why....
NO considerable "Sticker" price savings..at least around here
Ds are 2K more..
NO considerable "Fuel" savings...diesel my way is MORE than Gasoline!..$2.56/gal vs $2.29/gal!
Dunno....It never can be simple can it?
Just drive a little less...
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: WTJ I just returned from the petrol station, $42 at $2.35/gallon—and
I still love my Jeep! With the warmer temperatures now in
Southeastern Wisconsin, I average 14.5-MPG in mixed driving,
which is up from 13.0-MPG in the winter months. There will be
no Honda in my future (unlike Gasboy), thank you.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: YJ Jeeper Well, just think of it as paying for the potential fuel you would burn "up-front" instead of at the pump. The goal is less frequent stops at the pump and cleaner emissions.
Besides, most people who buy new do financing, so instead of paying say, 400 dollars a month for a gas-powered Limited, you would pay about 430 dollars a month for a
D Limited (depending on options, of course.)
For those of you figuring the math... The average person drives 1000 miles per month. As of Monday, April 4th, the national average per gallon of regular unleaded was $2.22/gl. Deisel fuel was $2.30/gl.
Assuming the gasoline powered Limited with a 20 gl tank can go 300 miles per tank, the monthly cost would be $148. Assuming the deisel powered
D Limited with a 20 gl tank can go 500 miles per tank, the monthly cost would be $92. That is a $56 savings in fuel per month. Subtract the extra $30 you are paying a month for the
D, and you are saving $26 a month.
The considerably greater torque output of the deisel (especially at low RPMs), the less frequent pit stops, the decreased emissions, and the fact that the deisel is rated to 350,000 miles (the gas is 150,000 miles) before an overhaul make the
D Limited a very justifiable choice. Spread this technology across the Jeep brand, and everyone reaps the benefits.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: RUBICONTRAIL.NET One thing you missed in your comment about fuel prices, weight range, etc. The vehicle with the most sales was the heaviest. The Liberty, which is available with a
D in most states, actually lost a small percentage of sales.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: 96 XJ Owner My math was really off.
I think i know why jeep took this long to get back to diesel. They last tried diesel in 1985-86, the engine was a Renault diesel that made 80hp. Engines back then were dirty also and noone bought them.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: YJ Jeeper I dont know why, but whenever I typed "crd" limited, it skipped the "cr"... so what is meant by "D Limited" is "Common Rail Deisel Limited"... but Im sure you all figured that out...
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: WK The GC beat the "off-road" edition Pathfinder...
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Jonathon I can't help with the V6 versus V8 BUT I can tell you about the V8 High-Output (no longer avail.) and the HEMI.....UNBELIEVEABLE. The Hemi is the fastest, smoothest and quietest engine I've driven since my old Lexus sedan. No. It is faster. Shifting through the gears with the new transmission electronic shift feature is alot of fun, even in automatic downshift mode. (Few people know about this feature including many Jeep dealers)...... Sure, I do not like what I am paying for gas, but what a GAS!
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: 96 XJ Owner I care about gas. but gas here isn't above $2.10 yet. NO price could ever stop me from driving my XJ. I just put in a K&N FIPK in my truck and I am saving arround 5MPG I used to get 15MPG mixed driving and now I get 20MPG. I know that sounds crazy and if gas prices get to be more I'll just change the exhaust. for those who still have a warrenty there are other things you could do: gas additives like techron, properly inflate the tires, frequent oil changes. there are common sence solutions that can help improve milage. what doesnt make sence is spending the money on a new jeep and not drive it, if you did are one of those people then a jeep really is not for you.
If I take good care of it the milage should stay good.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: jason I agree, I sell jeeps and people who know jeeps don't care about gas!!!!! Those who do... should not own a jeep and should go buy a honda or toyota!!! Should dcx get diesels in the U.S.....Why not....diesels have the best torque!!! Oh ya and gas milege :)
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: WTJ This article may provide good news to “the-sky-is-falling” Jeep owners concerned about gas prices: http://springfield.news-leader.com/business/today/20050405-Analystseesoilp.html Since I drive the vehicle I love, a 1999 TJ, gas prices don’t really bother me. In fact, I am somewhat glad gas prices are high because it separates the wannabes from the people who REALLY want/need such a vehicle, like me. Eventually, the mass popularity of the SUV will go the way of the tailfin land-yacht of the ‘50s and ‘60s, as the herd will—like in the ’70s and ‘80s— succumb to more sensible vehicles those of which they should have driven all along. |
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Gasboy When gas prices get close to $4/gal. and they will its gonna slam jeep as well as ford and chevy. People will not be buying gas guzzlers. Dont get me wrong i purchased a 05 unlimited rubi and luv it but with gas mileage heading into the mid $2's its sitting in the garage. I would not have purchased it had i been a little more knowledgeable on oil prices and there expected continued rise over the coming years. China/India are using more oil and production around the world is very close to peak leaving no room for excess capacity in the oil chain. Its just a matter of a war/storm/tanker spill etc...and oil will move up dramatically....go ahead and laugh but when you are paying $3+/gallon just think of this post and your gas guzzlin suv that will be worth pennies on the dollar cuz nobody will want it...... :-)
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: jeep fan The new mercedes 3.0 v6 diesel available on the Grand Cherokee, available everywhere outside of North America, pushes more torque than the Hemi, gets superior fuel economy, and, like most diesels, may go twice the distance. It's not uncommon for diesels to go well over 300K miles. So, the long term pay-backs, including trade-in, certainly manifest themselves with the diesel. I would suspect that the crd and the six-speed manual in the Wrangler would likely up its economy by about 4-6 mpgs.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: jason Real life grand cherokee gas milage is the same of any car!!!! They are tested at low mph and bad and good conditions...for more info visit www.fueleconomy.gov . Now as far as the heni goes in jeep/chrysler products the EPA will not test the MDS system on any car, so those numbers are actually very low, add 20% and you will get the correct mpg....Of course if you drive it like a hot rod you'll get 12mpg!!!!! |
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Jon Another question..Is it correct that Quadra-Trac I in a 4X4 Jeep Grand Cherokee is not Trail-Rated?
Quadra-Trac II is?
I was on Jeep.com and under their build a Jeep it won't allow a Quadra-Trac II on anything other than a Grand Cherokee Limited with the Hemi.
I don't think that is correct because you should be able to get a QT II on a Laredo V6 GC right??
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: RUBICONTRAIL.NET Also, don't "
D" engines need less frequent oil changes? If so, this would be an additional cost savings.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Heavy Duty Dan Regardless, diesel engines of today get much better economy and have better durability than gasoline. Not to mention, diesel engines today coupled with new low-sulphur diesel actually burns cleaner than most gasoline vehicles today. They release less hydrocarbons and particulates. So, despite the slightly higer cost of the diesel fuel today, and despite the initial cost of the engine and repairs/maintainnance, it's worth it. Jeep should have been putting diesels in thier vehicles years ago for North America. So what..the engine makes a little more noise and they're might be a slight funny smell..big deal..suck it up...you want a quiet engine that doesnt smell, buy a honda..
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: Carter That only works out to $200 savings in the first year at
10,000 miles. You'd have to drive it 10 years or
100,000 miles to get your money back. The $2000
premium on diesel models is not justified.
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: 96XJ owner i think that diesel will catch on soon enough. diesel is about $.20 (where i live gas is $2.03 and diesel is $2.23) more than gas now but that will change in the summer when people don't neet heating oil. it will go down more when the refineries are finished being upgraded to produce low sulfur fuel.
i hope mty calculations are right but if the liberty diesel gets in and about 25% better economy than the 3.7 and the 3.7 gets 20-ish MPG then the diesel gets 25-ish MPG.
regular 3.7 Liberty--$.10 a miile
diesel Liberty------$.8 a mile
at that rate the diesel will pay off in the first year at about 10,000 miles.
and diesels last longer
and the cost to get one will drop when they catch on
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: comment check out the article on carnanddriver.com on the rock crawling suvs..they rate them 1-6. the gc is the winner...
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Posted: 1969/12/31 18:00 Updated: 1969/12/31 18:00 |
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Originally posted by: jeep fan It appears fuel prices have finally hit home. DC better get with it and begin treating the North American market as it does Europe, and many other parts of the world, and provide us with the same economical diesel/tranny options. And, time to trim the weights to a more reasonable 3000 lb range -- as was the old Cherokee.
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