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Old 03-19-2010, 09:20 PM   #1
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At the risk of sparking a major debate...What does everybody think is the best type of welder in a BASIC workshop for making simple body and frame repairs??

Some say wire welders (with or without gas) because they are fast and easy to learn...

Some say TIG welders because they produce the nicest looking welds...

And, some say the old style stick style welders are best because of their versatility (can weld think to thin metals, dirty metal, can cut metal, etc.) if you are only going to own one machine...

 

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Old 03-19-2010, 10:18 PM   #2
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Lincoln 225 AC DC stick. is what I recomend.

Miller 250 High freequency TIG is what I own.
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Old 03-19-2010, 10:19 PM   #3
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Old 03-19-2010, 10:27 PM   #4
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i have a little lincoln weldpack 125 i think is what it is it may be the 145 i can't remember but it does mig and flux core wire i paid $500 brand new and it has paid for itself several times over and does everything i ever ask of it. i believe it is perfect for just about anyones home garage
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Old 03-19-2010, 11:36 PM   #5
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well now
I like tig for specialty work, no need to own it at home unless you are doing custom work there like specialty metals, most home shops can be worked with a MIG.
Arc is good for thick metals, But I notice more and more welders showing up with big Mig machines to weld metals in construction, so I think the revolution is catching on. The best thing I can say about stick arc is you have a lot of choices in stick size and shields that change in seconds. Besides that unless you just like it, or weld thick metals, Mig is by passing it.
Everyone who welds needs a gas setup, it is the way to do light metals and gives you the ability to cut. Until Plasma cutters get affordable, then Gas will rule.
I use mig a lot at the house and the more I do it the more I find I can do more and more work with it.
Now as said earlier, that is an opinion and opinions are like $#*&#@$).
So take it at surface value
and that value is you can set up good dual polarity mig setup and a small gas setup for around a grand including bottle lease and consumables. spend a few weekends building a few carts and be good enough for good work, after a few years you will be good enough to get fancy.
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Old 03-20-2010, 09:33 AM   #6
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Lincoln 225 AC DC stick. is what I recomend.

Miller 250 High freequency TIG is what I own.
Talking with old timers, they seem to love their stick welders...but then maybe they just like old technology!

Has anybody actually welded Jeep sheet metal body parts with a stick??

 

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IMO the mig is the best all around welder.
It's better for thicker metal and for filling holes and gaps.

A TIG is for fine detail work.

An ARC is what U stuff under the hood of your offroader,
for trail use LOL.
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Talking with old timers, they seem to love their stick welders...but then maybe they just like old technology!

Has anybody actually welded Jeep sheet metal body parts with a stick??
Now why does he quote me when he talks about "old timers"??

Perhaps the new technology has short comings that the salesman didn't mention.
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I was actually thinking of my father-in-law as the old timer in question.

Until I can get a welder to make permanent repairs, what do folks recommend to temporarily seal small rust holes/cracks in the body and prevent them from getting worse?

 

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Pictures of these issues would be helpful.


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I was actually thinking of my father-in-law as the old timer in question.

Until I can get a welder to make permanent repairs, what do folks recommend to temporarily seal small rust holes/cracks in the body and prevent them from getting worse?
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