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Old 06-20-2010, 07:24 PM   #1
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I bought an angle finder to see what my caster is running, because I just replaced my gear box and steering shaft with little results. The needle shows 11 degrees toward the front of the jeep. I heard its suppose to be 4 degrees positive for a cj. With the needle going toward the front of the jeep im guessing that this is a positive angle ? Is this angle to much or is this ok. There are no shims under the leaf springs and I have a spring over axle lift. Here are some photo's.

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Old 06-20-2010, 09:44 PM   #2
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Just so everyone understands my problem. When I'm driving down the road my jeep wanders right and left. I have to correct it all the time and it feels
loose. I replaced the gear box and steering shaft, the ball joints are tight and the tie rods are tight. One guy suggested my caster could be off. He said anytime you add a lift you change the geometry of the front end and the caster will need to be corrected. I did some research and found the caster on a cj should be 4 degrees positive. They said you can check your caster with a angle finder by setting it on the upper ball joint nut and reading the angle. So i did that and mine shows 11 degrees with the needle pointing toward the front of the jeep. I'm guessing that is a positive angle and not negative. So my big question is, is 11 degrees bad and can that cause it to wander on the road ?

 

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Old 06-20-2010, 09:45 PM   #3
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That sounds like alot.
Your pic's are not working.
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Old 06-20-2010, 09:50 PM   #4
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Old 06-20-2010, 10:01 PM   #5
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That's some scary pitman arm you've got there. I would start by fixing that.
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Old 06-20-2010, 10:52 PM   #6
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OMG X2 on the pitman arm that is the last place in the world I would want a spacer
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Old 06-21-2010, 08:36 PM   #7
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yeah i see a high steer setup in your future, which just might solve your problem. also check that bell joint (don't know the proper name) that connects your steering column to the steering box that is a good possibility
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Is your tie-rod end welded to the rod?
What kind of rear end is that, a d44? What's it out of?
I can't tell from the pic. is it a shackel reversal?
About the 11* caster it sounds like a lot, but you need more than stock if you have bigger than stock tires. What size tires are you running?
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This jeep was already setup like this when I bought it, so I'll try and answer your questions the best that I can. The tires are 35x12.5x15.
The front axle is suppose to be a Dana 44 and the rear is a Ford 8.8.
I've replaced the steering gear box and the steering shaft. The caster is 11* positive on the drivers side. Tonight I'm checking the passenger side caster degree and taking apart the tie rods so I can check to make sure the ball joints are not sticking or bad. I heard I can check the toe-in and toe-out fairly easy as well, so I copied the procedures for check that as well. I can for sure tell you this, it wanders and the steering will not return to center on its own. I'm working hard to solve this problem on my own because I can't afford to pay a garage to fix it these days. My wife is putting some pressure on me to get it done now as well, because she is to scared to drive it with the steering the way that it is. Sorry for such a long message, just trying to relieve some stress. Thanks guys for helping me, I really appreciate it.

 

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I will also check the tie rod ends to see if there welded tonight and let you know. Oh, one guy told me to install the Ram system. To much cash for me, wow $900. Not sure how to tell if its a shackle reversal ?

 

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