Default Frame repair 

Old 03-23-2009, 08:29 AM   1 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #1
surfbum is offline
surfbum
Junior Jeeper
Vehicle(s): 79 CJ7... 258 motor... T-18 trans... Dana 20 case... Dana 30 w/ lockrite... AMC 20 w/ detroit and 1 piece axles.
 
surfbum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: South Jersey (yea, someone has to)
Age: 48
Posts: 62
Images: 1
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 6 surfbum is on a distinguished road
Here are some pics of this weekends frame work on my '79 CJ7. I kept whaling on it with the BIG thumper until I found where I had good metal.... and then went to work with the grinder and the heavy wire wheel. After coating it with POR 15 and then primer, the 1/4 plates were bolted into place and then stich welded. I didn't have time to take any pics last night after the application on 3 cans of rust killing primer and 2 more of rustoleum flat black, but suffice to say, she looks better. I took a pic of the back too. Note the "access holes" the PO made to get to the body mounts(I guess). Time for more aluminum plate. LOL Tonight we're gonna tackle the gas tank skidplate and patch that up with some galvanized.
I'll post a better pic of her when I get done installing the new stainless brake lines, wheel cylinders and brakes; and can get it outside. Oh yea, Thanks to this site, I was able to get the D@#M brake drums off. I don't remember my '86 having those stainless screws holding the drum to the hub???... but that was many years and beers age.
On another note, The springs are 5 leafs with red eye bushings (rancho maybe) They are tapered on the ends with antifriction pads but have no degree shim. Would these be stock??? The shackles are not stock. I believe they are 3/4 " lift shackles and it looks like it has a 1" body lift. The Jeep sits on 31" tires now with MAYBE room for 32's. Does this sound right? I figured with stock springs, the 1" body and the 3/4" shackles, there should be more clearence than that???? Unless the springs are a stock replacement. I can take a pic of them if it would help.
Again, thanks for all your time
Mark
Attached Thumbnails
jeepwork-002.jpg   jeepwork-004.jpg   jeepwork-014.jpg   jeepwork-015.jpg   jeepwork-013.jpg  


 

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Register as a Member and remove this add!

Vote for Jeep-CJ.com daily!
Vote for Jeep-CJ.com

Default Re: Frame repair 

Old 03-23-2009, 11:23 AM   #2
CJ is offline
CJ
Jeep-CJ.com Administrator & Site Owner
Vehicle(s): '72 CJ5, 401, T18, D20, D44, D30 '82 CJ8, 258, D300, AMC20, D30
 
CJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: SW GA
Posts: 8,802
Blog Entries: 24
Images: 213
Thanks: 250
Thanked 4,487 Times in 443 Posts
Rep Power: 10 CJ is on a distinguished road
That is some serious frame rot ya had there. You did a heck of a job repairing it.

I ed at the 'access' holes! That's just not right!!!

Sounds like Rancho springs, do any of the leafs have a military wrap or a semi one? I don't believe the stock springs had anti friction pads. My Rancho springs had a part number painted in white right in top of them, can you see any remnants of a #?

The body mounts look allot more then 1"! Anything over 1" is a body lift. What do you get when you measure them?

Are your trying to fit new tires and wheels under it or just looking to replace the suspension?
__________________
Vote For Us Daily

PM's to me may not get answered for a while, I'll answer them though...
Blogs are for personal messages - not for questions best asked in the forums...

Thanks, --CJ

 

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote

Default Re: Frame repair 

Old 03-23-2009, 11:46 AM   #3
Petescj is offline
Petescj
Modded Jeeper
Vehicle(s): 1981 CJ LAREDO. 258 , TF-999 with a Dana 300. 4in. spring lift with 35s and 1 piece rear axles. 1983 CJ-7 LIMITED. Awaiting a Chevy 350 ,SM-465 with the Dana 300 T-case. Under a full frame off resto mod.
 
Petescj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: PA
Age: 44
Posts: 9,543
Images: 196
Thanks: 516
Thanked 674 Times in 533 Posts
Rep Power: 15 Petescj is on a distinguished road
Wow ! That frame rot makes me feel alot better about mine. Nice job fixing that up. Did Rancho have a military wrap spring? I thought that was mainly BDS?

 

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote

Default Re: Frame repair 

Old 03-23-2009, 11:50 AM   #4
CJ is offline
CJ
Jeep-CJ.com Administrator & Site Owner
Vehicle(s): '72 CJ5, 401, T18, D20, D44, D30 '82 CJ8, 258, D300, AMC20, D30
 
CJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: SW GA
Posts: 8,802
Blog Entries: 24
Images: 213
Thanks: 250
Thanked 4,487 Times in 443 Posts
Rep Power: 10 CJ is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Petescj View Post
Wow ! That frame rot makes me feel alot better about mine. Nice job fixing that up. Did Rancho have a military wrap spring? I thought that was mainly BDS?
My replacement from a few years ago was a military wrap. I guess they started it a bit ago...
__________________
Vote For Us Daily

PM's to me may not get answered for a while, I'll answer them though...
Blogs are for personal messages - not for questions best asked in the forums...

Thanks, --CJ

 

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote

Default Re: Frame repair 

Old 03-23-2009, 12:10 PM   #5
surfbum is offline
surfbum
Junior Jeeper
Vehicle(s): 79 CJ7... 258 motor... T-18 trans... Dana 20 case... Dana 30 w/ lockrite... AMC 20 w/ detroit and 1 piece axles.
 
surfbum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: South Jersey (yea, someone has to)
Age: 48
Posts: 62
Images: 1
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 6 surfbum is on a distinguished road
I'll measure the body mounts when I get home this afternoon. So the stock ones measured 1"? If so I'll subtract that from the measurement I get.
The springs (and everything else) are covered with surface rust from sitting outside for years. The eyes look like the ones on my skyjackers/superlifts on my chevy, just 1 wrap on the main leaf. Originially, I thought they were the stock springs with replacement bushings.... until I saw the tapered ends with the friction pads. I am pretty sure the shackles are 3/4" to 1" lift shackles, and with that body lift, I would think I would have more clearence than I do. I know rancho makes a stock replacement spring. I'll attach another pic of the jeep and try to get a better one tonight. I'ts kinda hard to get an accurate look at the front wheel with the back jacked up a foot or so.
My original plan (when I thought I had stock springs) was to put in add-a -leafs for now; as I assumed my springs were sagged from being 30 years old, but if they aren't stock, I don't think add-a-leafs will work with aftermarket springs. I know the right thing to do would be to swap them out for a set on 3" BDS springs, but money is tight and I know from experience that by the time I was done with springs, shocks, stabalizer, pitman arm, ect.... I would be into it for better than 5 hundred bills. That's waaay over my budget now. The jeep was free, and it runs good. My total investment so far is @ $75.00 at the local steel yard, and the $$ to change all the fluids (Oil, trans, tf case, rears, and radiator). I was hoping for 33" tires, but could be happy with 32's (maybe...LOL).
See what you think from the pic.... and I'll try for better ones tonight.
The Chevy used to look bad too !!! LOL
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME
Attached Thumbnails
jeepwork-006.jpg   jeepwork-007.jpg   jeepwork-010.jpg  

 

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote

Default Re: Frame repair 

Old 03-23-2009, 03:26 PM   #6
Petescj is offline
Petescj
Modded Jeeper
Vehicle(s): 1981 CJ LAREDO. 258 , TF-999 with a Dana 300. 4in. spring lift with 35s and 1 piece rear axles. 1983 CJ-7 LIMITED. Awaiting a Chevy 350 ,SM-465 with the Dana 300 T-case. Under a full frame off resto mod.
 
Petescj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: PA
Age: 44
Posts: 9,543
Images: 196
Thanks: 516
Thanked 674 Times in 533 Posts
Rep Power: 15 Petescj is on a distinguished road
Check craigslist and any local Jeep club forums. You can always get a used lift.

 

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote

Default Re: Frame repair 

Old 03-24-2009, 06:30 AM   #7
surfbum is offline
surfbum
Junior Jeeper
Vehicle(s): 79 CJ7... 258 motor... T-18 trans... Dana 20 case... Dana 30 w/ lockrite... AMC 20 w/ detroit and 1 piece axles.
 
surfbum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: South Jersey (yea, someone has to)
Age: 48
Posts: 62
Images: 1
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 6 surfbum is on a distinguished road
CJ, I measured the body mounts last night and they are 1 3/4". They do look bigger in the pics. The shackles measure 5" eye to eye. Does anyone know what factory shackles measure eye to eye?
Gas tank skid plate covered with galvanized last night, so that can go back in soon. My tank has two vapor hoses that go up behind the DS rear wheelwell to a plastic piece about the size of a baseball and then to what looks like a solonoid valve. From there, a hose runs forward up the frame rail, where it terminates near the brake block at a rubber hose that has been cut. I'm assuming that it used to go to a charcoal canister (which is non-existant now). My question is, can I take a piece of hose and connect the two hose nipples on the gas tank together, or should I put a long length of hose on each one and route them up near where they go now?(kinda like the vent for the axles) I'm going to remove and trash the solonoid and other plastic thing, as they are cracked and not salvageable and the hose running up the frame is waaay rusted.
Sorry for all the ????'s You guys are great !!!

 

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote

Default Re: Frame repair 

Old 03-24-2009, 11:31 AM   #8
CJ is offline
CJ
Jeep-CJ.com Administrator & Site Owner
Vehicle(s): '72 CJ5, 401, T18, D20, D44, D30 '82 CJ8, 258, D300, AMC20, D30
 
CJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: SW GA
Posts: 8,802
Blog Entries: 24
Images: 213
Thanks: 250
Thanked 4,487 Times in 443 Posts
Rep Power: 10 CJ is on a distinguished road
I just sealed up the tank nipples on mine, I didn't bother to connect them together but that will work just as well if your not using the emissions system.

Trash what solenoid? Have a pic?
__________________
Vote For Us Daily

PM's to me may not get answered for a while, I'll answer them though...
Blogs are for personal messages - not for questions best asked in the forums...

Thanks, --CJ

 

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote

Default Re: Frame repair 

Old 03-24-2009, 11:48 AM   #9
surfbum is offline
surfbum
Junior Jeeper
Vehicle(s): 79 CJ7... 258 motor... T-18 trans... Dana 20 case... Dana 30 w/ lockrite... AMC 20 w/ detroit and 1 piece axles.
 
surfbum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: South Jersey (yea, someone has to)
Age: 48
Posts: 62
Images: 1
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 6 surfbum is on a distinguished road
I'll take one tonight. The whole assembly is laying on my bench. It looks like a small electric fuel pump(with no wires) but it's got to be some kind of check valve that lets the vapors go to the charcoal canister....which is long gone. It was up inside by the DS taillight. Was bolted to back side of wheelwell. Definitely factory. 2 hoses from fuel tank to round black plastic thing, then 1 hose to this thing, then 1 hose up frame rail towards engine.

 

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote

Default Re: Frame repair 

Old 11-14-2009, 08:51 PM   #10
chilidawg72 is offline
chilidawg72
New Jeeper
Vehicle(s): 79 cj7
 
chilidawg72's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Effingham,IL
Age: 41
Posts: 11
Images: 13
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0 chilidawg72 is on a distinguished road
Just joined CJ.com and know this is an old post but this is exactly what my frame needs! I was wondering if those are the plates they sell at MORE? My frame is a little more rusted than yours was though and I was thinking of cutting the whole back end off right at the rear hangers. BTW I drive this Jeep every single day rusty frame or not!

 

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
frame, repair


LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://www.jeep-cj.com/forums/f7/frame-repair-899/
Posted By For Type Date
frame rust repair - Jeep Wrangler Forum This thread Refback 06-02-2010 02:47 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
frame repair panels brotherjohn Chassis and Body 2 04-05-2013 08:30 AM
CJ7 Frame Rot Repair JLCBikes Chassis and Body 4 08-12-2012 07:43 PM
Repair or replace frame? jroth340 Chassis and Body 6 08-12-2012 09:53 AM
Frame Repair - Houston BrushpileBill Suspension and Steering 3 04-07-2012 10:09 AM
Frame Repair - Patch Welding? coffman Chassis and Body 3 02-28-2011 09:01 PM


Vote for Jeep-CJ.com