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Old 05-15-2013, 08:31 PM   #31
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I dont want to be miserable or anything but I think you should start out with a better candidate to begin with. Look for a running 360 that needs a freshening or something thats already rebuilt. Im with Jimbo on just how this looks.

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Old 05-15-2013, 10:54 PM   #32
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. Im with Jimbo on just how this looks.
This makes three votes. That engine looks pretty rough! You could ask them how much they will give you for that core and go find another?

 

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I need to ask what he thinks about integrity of to block. It's a full rebuild, but as long as its a full rebuil and the block will hold up to it, can't imagine any issues. I was hoping that it wouldn't come to this, but I don't really want to buy another engine and have to adapt to it. The guys are very reputable around here so I trus them, plus for what it is, it doesn't seem like a bad deal. However, if the block can't hold it, no point. Block seems solid from what he said. Need to ask more questions before I decide.


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Old 05-16-2013, 12:23 PM   #34
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[quote=Wrangled13;153121]I need to ask what he thinks about integrity of to block. It's a full rebuild, but as long as its a full rebuil and the block will hold up to it, can't imagine any issues. I was hoping that it wouldn't come to this, but I don't really want to buy another engine and have to adapt to it. The guys are very reputable around here so I trus them, plus for what it is, it doesn't seem like a bad deal. However, if the block can't hold it, no point. Block seems solid from what he said. Need to ask more questions before I decide.


Wrangled............The only issue of integrity would be if the block is cracked.

I would not go out and buy another Junk Yard used backyard rebuilt simply because you never know what it has been through and who did the work.

First off your motor will get hot tanked which will make it nice and pretty, new freeze plugs, Bored, crank ground, new pistons, rings, bearings........I'm sure your guy will check the lifter bores and replace the cam bearings ...... Timing gears and chain and also get a new oil pump.
Note: there is a 304 quick oiling update that should be considered when its apart..... talk to your mechanic.

Of course you should also have him tune your heads up with a valve job and valve guide seals........

Now you have a dependable engine that will last and take you anywhere you want to go.


 

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Old 05-16-2013, 03:12 PM   #35
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Thanks for the info. I have read about the oiling update and will have that done as well. It is a full rebuild of the bottom end only reusing the crank (obviously with some work) and the rods. Everything else will be replaced.

 

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Not putting words into any other peoples mouths but I think the integrity issue is what we question. Its pretty obvious the previous owner (s) didnt care for this engine at all. Disassemble it all and send the block to the shop you mentioned. They will tell you if the block is sound

Am I correct in thinking the shop hasnt seen the engine yet and you are just going off an estimate? Im not trying to be a prick or anything , I just dont want to see you get involved with a worn out engine with possible defects that you cant rebuild again! I hate to throw away money myself.


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Wrangled............The only issue of integrity would be if the block is cracked.

I would not go out and buy another Junk Yard used backyard rebuilt simply because you never know what it has been through and who did the work.

First off your motor will get hot tanked which will make it nice and pretty, new freeze plugs, Bored, crank ground, new pistons, rings, bearings........I'm sure your guy will check the lifter bores and replace the cam bearings ...... Timing gears and chain and also get a new oil pump.
Note: there is a 304 quick oiling update that should be considered when its apart..... talk to your mechanic.

Of course you should also have him tune your heads up with a valve job and valve guide seals........

Now you have a dependable engine that will last and take you anywhere you want to go.

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Not putting words into any other peoples mouths but I think the integrity issue is what we question. Its pretty obvious the previous owner (s) didnt care for this engine at all. Disassemble it all and send the block to the shop you mentioned. They will tell you if the block is sound

Am I correct in thinking the shop hasnt seen the engine yet and you are just going off an estimate? Im not trying to be a prick or anything , I just dont want to see you get involved with a worn out engine with possible defects that you cant rebuild again! I hate to throw away money myself.
I appreciate it. They have the block torn completely down to nothing. That's how I got the quote


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Alright that answers the integrity question then. Whats the bore going to be? Was it rebuilt before?
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Alright that answers the integrity question then. Whats the bore going to be? Was it rebuilt before?
I dont believe it was ever rebuild prior to this. it will be bored .030 over.

 

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I dont believe it was ever rebuild prior to this. it will be bored .030 over.
Thats good news there. You will have room to rebuild again if you ever need to. Mine was never rebuilt before and they had to go 60 over for comparison. It should run good, but this is its first and last rebuild if I had to guess. That will be my childrens' problem though...

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