232 still wont run in my 77 CJ7 ???

CoreyYoungCj577 · 02-28-2010, 11:32 AM

So the last few days ive been getting the old gas tank back in my 7, well i did everything i needed. Reconnected all the new fuel line and the few wires back there, blew out the metal fuel lines with carb cleaner, washed the tank out and put fresh gas in, I still cant believe my tank was just a big steel box. But the one thing i didnt do because i didnt know what i had to do was clean the spark plugs, so today im going to take a hand held torch and burn the carbon off the plugs and wire brush them clean and hope it fires! But i am wondering what you guys may think it might be if cleaning the plugs doesnt let it fire.
To give some history on what happened, i had done a fresh tune up on the old 7 a few days before this happened and drove it around one night and then i parked it in the garage, the next day i tried starting it and it ran like it was missing on all the cylinders, which it was because all the plugs were fouled, so i rebuilt the carb. So if you guys have any insight on what it could be other then carb issues please let me know what you think!

IOPort51 · 02-28-2010, 12:00 PM

When you turn it over, pull a plug wire and see if you get a spark if you hold it up to the block. some guys prefer to put their finger or even their tongue up close to the wire but I find the block works well enough.
If you have a spark, look down the carb and pump the throttle, You should have a noticeable spray of fuel. If not, you may have not run it enough to bring fuel from the tank.
You may have to prime the carb, put about 1/4 cup of fuel in the carb, to turn it over enough to bring fuel from the tank.
Unless the plugs have bridged the gap with carbon I would not sweat the plugs, in fact, pull the plug, put it in the wire and ground it to the block to check the spark.

There are only two things that can stop you from running, no fire and no fuel.
I am figuring you just don't have fuel to the carb yet.

Old Dog · 02-28-2010, 12:07 PM

This all started so long ago, did you ever confurm that it didn't jump time?
Oh yea what IO said.

CoreyYoungCj577 · 02-28-2010, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Dog

This all started so long ago, did you ever confurm that it didn't jump time?
Oh yea what IO said.

I didnt really think it jumped time, for the simple fact that if it had jumped time i dont think ALL the plugs would have gotten fouled or any at that but im no ASE certified mechanic so correct me if im wrong lol and Thanks IO ill check the plugs and wires later today, im still going to burn the carbon off and check the gaps because i still think that 4 plugs are fouled, because 2 are brand new in it. I did prime the carb two different times with about a 1/8 the first time and a 1/4 the second forgot to mention that

im thinking there is no fire, but i did have a buddy look down the carb to see if it was getting fuel and he didnt see very much squirt in, but even had it squirted enough i dont know if the plugs would have fired it. Ill get you updated on this later, oh ya IO guess what

I'll get you your pictures today!

Sasquach · 02-28-2010, 02:02 PM

[QUOTE=IOPort51;34560] "some guys prefer to put their finger or even their tongue up close to the wire"

Can't say as I recomend that!

Other than that, you gotta determine if you have a spark or not then go from there.
my2Cents

BrockGrimes · 02-28-2010, 02:56 PM

Mechanical fuel pump?

CoreyYoungCj577 · 02-28-2010, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BrockGrimes

Mechanical fuel pump?

How do you tell if its mechanical? it goes on to the engine. So and i had my dad and my neighbor come up and the rotor doesnt point dead on the first plug wire and it has spark they think the timing is off, so unless i can get this running 258 with a 4 speed and rolling frame for 100 bucks then im out of luck till i can buy a new timing chain

TDHofstetter · 02-28-2010, 06:04 PM

Moisture inside the new distributor cap?

CoreyYoungCj577 · 02-28-2010, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TDHofstetter

Moisture inside the new distributor cap?

Nope its dryer then can be and hasnt had moisture in it what so ever. This is kind of a let down after all the WORK to put the damn gas tank back in...

TDHofstetter · 02-28-2010, 06:25 PM

If the fuel pump is attached to the side of the engine, it's mechanical. If it was electrical, it could be mounted on the frame, on the fender, nearly anywhere.

Ok, so... ignition timing won't change overnight. How about the choke? Is it closing? Can you make it run better by holding your hand over the choke, or is that worse?

Disconnect the fuel line at the carburetor (ENGINE OFF). Stick the end of the fuel line into a clean, dry soda (or beer) can. Take the coil wire completely off and crank the engine for a couple of seconds.There should now be a couple of ounces of gasoline in the can. Smell it - does it smell sharp & pungent like good new gasoline? Pour it into a glass jar & look at it. Did you maybe leave some water in the tank when you washed it out?

Oh, put the fuel line & coil wire back now. Thanks.