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Old 08-11-2010, 11:49 AM   #1
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Hello to all, I am new to this forum so please be patient with me. I just bought my first jeep. 78 cj7. The PO has done an SOA conversion and has put a 350 in it. Sitting on 33's. Stock front and rear axles. My question pertains to steering. The steering box was loose on the frame and I fixed that and it helped. The jeep still jumps all over the road when you hit a bump. There is no sway bar. People say you don't need them. I don't know that for sure tho. If I install a sway bar will this help, or is it something else? I read alot about drop pitman arms? Would a steering stabilizer help? Wish I had more info, but I don't. Please advise. Thank you in advance!!

 

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Old 08-11-2010, 03:35 PM   #2
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read through this sticky thread http://www.jeep-cj.com/forums/f19/tr...steering-4106/ , it will help you out a lot.

 

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Old 08-11-2010, 04:07 PM   #3
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Some pix of your front set up would help us alot.
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:51 PM   #4
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First of all, as a 1st time CJ owner you have to realize that these old Jeeps are not a smooth ride even in the best of situations. This can take some getting used to. The problem can be aggravated when you lift the Jeep on top of that. The PO of my CJ 7 installed a "reverse shackle" on the front end of my CJ and told me it's the best $200 he ever spent on the CJ. ( this guy was a mechanic in the army for 27 yrs, so I trust his opinion ) I can't compare to how it was handling before, but from driving other CJs in the past it does seem to make a difference, especially considering it had a lift too. Here's a little article I dug up on reverse shackles. Jeep Leaf Spring Suspension Shackle Reversal - 4-Wheel & Off-Road Magazine

And here's a better article: http://www.jpmagazine.com/techarticl...sal/index.html
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First of all, as a 1st time CJ owner you have to realize that these old Jeeps are not a smooth ride even in the best of situations. This can take some getting used to. The problem can be aggravated when you lift the Jeep on top of that. The PO of my CJ 7 installed a "reverse shackle" on the front end of my CJ and told me it's the best $200 he ever spent on the CJ. ( this guy was a mechanic in the army for 27 yrs, so I trust his opinion ) I can't compare to how it was handling before, but from driving other CJs in the past it does seem to make a difference, especially considering it had a lift too. Here's a little article I dug up on reverse shackles. Jeep Leaf Spring Suspension Shackle Reversal - 4-Wheel & Off-Road Magazine

And here's a better article: Jeep Shackle Reversal Kit - Forward, Reversed - Jp Magazine

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Old 08-12-2010, 10:34 PM   #6
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A jeep that's set-up right should drive just fine, I have a 4" lift and 33's and it handles fine, yea the short wheel base can make it handle different than a long wheelbase, but it goes down the road straight and is not effected but bumps in the road.
My money is on the PO doing a bad SOA. So I still want some pix of the front end.
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:10 AM   #7
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A jeep that's set-up right should drive just fine, I have a 4" lift and 33's and it handles fine, yea the short wheel base can make it handle different than a long wheelbase, but it goes down the road straight and is not effected but bumps in the road.
My money is on the PO doing a bad SOA. So I still want some pix of the front end.
Yeah, I agree. It should track straight and drive relatively smooth, but it's going to be a bumpier more squirrely of a ride than say a full size truck, or a Buick, if that's what you're used to. It takes more getting used to. But, you shouldn't feel like you're taking your life in your hands as you go down the road either.
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Hey guys, thanks for viewing my post. I will try to get pictures this weekend. I notice that on my passengers side, the leaf springs have less arch than the drivers. Both front and rear, but especially the front. My jeep "dives" to the right when you acclerate and let off, and I'm assuming the leafs play a huge role in that. Front shocks are new per the PO, but I don't know what brand they are. May be cheapies! If I replace the leafs, what do I replace them with? Stock CJ leafs or what? Also, the rear shocks appear original. Can this be the case with the SOA conversion? I figured you would have to use longer shocks? I don't plan to do rock climbing or anything major as I live in Indiana. I want the jeep to play around the house with and cruise to town on nice days and that's about it. Don't need a show jeep just yet, just a beater that I don't have to worry too much about. However, I want to mechanically sound so my family can ride with me.

 

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The sway bar will do nothing for your bump steer, if your planning on driving it on the street alot a sway bar would be a good idea. As far as the bump steer, look at the link going from the pitnam arm over to the steering knuckle, when you look at it from the front of the jeep it should be almost level, not angling sharply down towards the knuckle. Some SOA kits will cause a drastic angle there and that will cause bad bump steer. You may have to go with a high steer kit to correct it. Install a good stabilizer on the front, especially with the SOA kit. The Jeep springs are not designed to handle the torque of the 350, it sounds like you may need to replace them also, if the PO hammered on it alot it could have semi collapsed the springs. If it doesnt have a drop pitnam arm it probably will need one. Also it probably has wore out bushings in the springs, if you replace the springs, go with poly bushings, they are stronger and will hold up better especially with the 350....hope this helps

 

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If I replace the springs, what do you recommend for replacement? A used set of CJ stock springs or ? Will add a leafs help me on my current springs, or do you think they are too far gone? Thanks in advance!!

 

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